What Are ETFs and LICs?
Both ETFs and LICs trade on the ASX like shares, give you diversified exposure to a basket of assets, and pay regular distributions. But the legal and structural differences between them have significant implications for pricing, tax, distributions, and how they behave in different market conditions.
- ETF (Exchange Traded Fund): An open-ended managed fund listed on ASX. Units are created and redeemed by authorised participants (large institutions) through an 'in-kind' creation/redemption mechanism. This keeps the market price tightly aligned with Net Asset Value (NAV). Most ETFs are passive - they track an index. Examples: Vanguard Australian Shares Index ETF (VAS), Vanguard MSCI Index International Shares ETF (VGS), iShares Core S&P/ASX 200 ETF (IOZ).
- LIC (Listed Investment Company): A closed-end company with a fixed number of shares on issue. It issues no new shares in normal operation. A professional investment manager runs the portfolio and makes active stock-picking decisions. The share price is set entirely by supply and demand - it can trade at a premium or discount to the underlying NTA (Net Tangible Assets). Examples: Australian Foundation Investment Company (AFI), Argo Investments (ARG), Mirrabooka (MIR), WAM Capital (WAM).
- LIT (Listed Investment Trust): Same concept as LIC but structured as a trust rather than a company. Trusts must distribute all income each year (cannot retain earnings), which affects dividend smoothing ability. Examples include Magellan Global Fund (MGF - now wound down), Platinum Asia Investments (PAI).
- Key structural difference - closed vs open-ended: In an ETF, the mechanism that keeps price = NAV is the creation/redemption process. In a LIC, there is no such mechanism. The price is purely market-driven. This structural difference is the root cause of most other differences between the two.
Fees: What You Actually Pay
Fees compound over decades and are one of the most reliable predictors of long-term underperformance. Both ETFs and LICs charge management fees, but the structures differ.
- Passive ETF fees (MER): VAS 0.07% p.a., VGS 0.18% p.a., IOZ 0.05% p.a., IVV (S&P 500) 0.04% p.a. These are razor-thin. On $100,000 invested, VAS costs $70/year.
- LIC management fees: AFI ~0.14% p.a. (very low for a LIC), ARG ~0.15%, WAM ~1.0% p.a. + 20% performance fee above benchmark. Active LIC fees of 0.8–1.2% p.a. are common. On $100,000, a 1% MER costs $1,000/year vs $70 for VAS - a $930/year difference that compounds dramatically over 30 years.
- Performance fees: Many active LICs charge performance fees (15–20% of outperformance above a hurdle). These are earned in good years but rarely refunded in bad years, creating a heads-I-win-tails-you-lose asymmetry. Read the PDS carefully.
- Brokerage: Both ETFs and LICs are bought/sold through your broker. Brokerage ($2–$19.95/trade depending on platform) is identical. For frequent small purchases, consider Pearler or Superhero which have lower brokerage for ETFs.
- Buy/sell spread (ETFs): ETFs have a spread between the market price and NAV - typically 0.01–0.10% for liquid ETFs. This is a one-off transaction cost, not ongoing.
Distributions and Tax
For income-focused investors, how LICs and ETFs handle distributions is critically different - particularly around dividend smoothing and franking.
- LIC dividend smoothing: A company LIC can retain earnings in good years and draw on retained profits to maintain dividends in bad years. AFI and ARG have paid consistent or increasing dividends for decades - even during the GFC - by drawing on profit reserves. This is highly valued by retirees needing predictable income.
- ETF distributions are variable: An ETF must pass through the income it receives from the underlying portfolio each period. In a year when index companies pay less in dividends (post-GFC) or when interest rates fall (bond ETFs), distributions fall. There is no smoothing mechanism. VAS distributions have varied by 30% year-to-year in some periods.
- Franking credits - both can deliver them: LICs investing in Australian shares pass franking through in dividends. ETFs like VAS pass franking through in distributions. In both cases, fully franked dividends from Aus companies attached to your investment flow through. The main difference is that LICs can accumulate franking and release it in a lump sum via a special dividend - which can be strategically useful for retirees in 0% tax brackets.
- Capital gains tax in ETFs: The creation/redemption mechanism means ETF managers rarely need to sell underlying shares to meet redemptions (they give shares in-kind). This means very low embedded CGT in passive ETFs. Active ETFs and LICs turn over their portfolios more, crystallising gains that flow to investors as part of distributions (ETF) or are retained in the NAV (LIC company structure).
- LIC company structure and CGT: Because a LIC is a company, it pays 30% company tax on realised gains (not eligible for the individual CGT 50% discount inside the fund). When the LIC distributes these gains as dividends, they come with franking credits. Depending on your marginal rate this may be more or less efficient than a trust structure that passes gains directly.
- AMIT regime for ETFs: Most passive ETFs use the AMIT (Attribution Managed Investment Trust) tax regime which allows 'attribution' of income, expenses and credits to investors - reducing double-taxation and improving CGT cost base accuracy. Annual AMIT member annual statement (AMMA) is required for your tax return.
Active vs Passive Performance: The Long-Run Data
LICs are almost always actively managed. ETFs are mostly passive (though active ETFs are growing). The question of whether active management adds value after fees is answered by a large body of evidence.
- SPIVA Australia Scorecard (S&P Global, 2024): Over 10 years, 80%+ of active Australian large-cap funds underperformed the S&P/ASX 200 on a net-of-fees basis. Over 15 years the figure exceeds 85%. This is for managed funds generally; LICs specifically show similar underperformance on average.
- LIC exceptions: A handful of Australian LICs have long track records of outperformance. AFI has delivered roughly index returns over 20+ years after fees (low fees help). WAM Small Cap (WAX) and Mirrabooka (MIR) have outperformed in small-cap space where markets are less efficient. But past performance does not predict future results and survivorship bias inflates apparent LIC outperformance - failed LICs are wound up and disappear from the data.
- The fee drag is compounding: Even if a LIC's gross returns match the index, a 1% fee means you fall 1% behind each year. Over 30 years at 8% p.a. gross return: $100k grows to $1.0M in an ETF at 0.07% fee, vs $762k in a LIC at 1.0% fee - a $238,000 difference from fees alone.
- When active management may justify the fee: Less efficient markets (small caps, emerging markets, niche sectors) offer more opportunity for skilled active managers to add value. In highly efficient markets (ASX 200, S&P 500), the evidence for active management is very poor.
Which Should You Choose?
There is no universal right answer - the right choice depends on your investment goals, tax situation, and whether you value income predictability over price accuracy.
- For most long-term wealth accumulators: Low-cost passive ETFs (VAS + VGS or DHHF/VDHG all-in-one) are the evidence-based default. Lower fees, transparent pricing, no discount/premium risk, broad diversification, and strong long-run expected returns.
- For retirees needing smooth income: LICs like AFI and ARG may suit those who value dividend smoothing and have the patience to hold through premium/discount cycles. The predictable fully franked dividend history is genuinely useful for cashflow planning.
- For small-cap or value exposure: Mirrabooka (MIR), WAM Research (WAX), and similar small-cap focused LICs offer access to less-efficient market segments where active management has a better case. Understand the fee and discount risk before buying.
- Portfolio combination: Many Australian investors hold the core (60–80%) in low-cost ETFs like VAS/VGS and supplement with one or two LICs for income smoothing or active small-cap exposure. This is a sensible middle ground.
- Buying LICs at a discount: If you want to hold a LIC for the long term, buying when it trades at a discount to NTA (check ASX announcements) improves your return. Buying at a premium increases your downside risk.
- For ESG or thematic exposure: ETF structures increasingly dominate - BetaShares ETHI, FAIR, GBND, NDQ and hundreds of others give access to thematic or ESG screens with low fees and transparent pricing that LICs rarely match.
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